Gazza_AZ 12:46 Sun Mar 10
The Rise of Ryan Fredericks
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He seems to have cemented the starting RB position. Is he our long-term solution or just a stop-gap?
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Northern Sold
4:04 Sun Mar 10
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Next door neighbour is a Fulham fan... said during the summer he'd do really well for us... just started to see it so fingers crossed he'll kick on...
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the exile
3:45 Sun Mar 10
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He's decent and should continue to improve. As others have said, he had a good run of games before yesterday and they were all poor against Cardiff. He has loads of pace and can tackle. I think his biggest weakness is defensive positioning, but he can learn that, whereas you can't learn pace. Definitely not a priority position in the transfer market, with young Johnson coming through too.
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Tomshardware
1:56 Sun Mar 10
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The rise and fall of Reginald Perrin.
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Alex V
1:33 Sun Mar 10
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Agree with others the question for me is whether you buy a player to be first choice above Fredericks, or maybe use Johnson as a 2nd choice to back him up (I don't see Zabaleta as a realistic option).
I think a great option would be to give Johnson some game time for the remainder of the season so a proper assessment can be made. It might even be that he can compete to be first choice.
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chedylan 2
1:19 Sun Mar 10
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Decent. Agree totally.
Think we need better than Fredricks playing the way pellegrini does, but yes there are other urgent priorities
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Sven Roeder
1:05 Sun Mar 10
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We have 8 games for him to have a run and improve.
Got the impression a few weeks ago that he was adjusting to the pace of the game with his passing and control. Some people seem to make instant judgements on players when some need some patience.
I’d like to see him start with Ben Johnson on the bench to come on at times.
I’d also use Conor Coventry to come on in central midfield in the role they are using Obiang in.
Some time for Johnson and Coventry to me is more important than Zabaleta and Obiang playing.
We need to start thinking about next season.
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Vexed
12:45 Sun Mar 10
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Bit early for this, he's only started about four games. He's really fast, seems to have a decent attitude but can't cross, is a bit rash and is probably the worst in the squad bar Carroll with the ball at his feet. He has some promise though.
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twoleftfeet
12:37 Sun Mar 10
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Bring back Zabaleta
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Crassus
12:33 Sun Mar 10
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Pace he does have but positionally, as you inadvertantly recognise Irons, and his defensive qualitities are not so easily trained, lad looks like an athlete rather than a footballer
That said, I agree with ED, not at the top of the priorities for change so will likely be around for a while. I did like the early look at young Ben, now he really does look the part
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eusebiovic
12:33 Sun Mar 10
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ironsofcanada 12:27 Sun Mar 10
The problem was the wide attacking players were not tracking back and helping the full backs so they didn't know whether to stick or twist...
As you say Hoilett was able to exploit the space inbetween
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ironsofcanada
12:32 Sun Mar 10
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I guess the overall point is, when have the rest of this season to decided before we can make a decision on whether we need to address the position.
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ironsofcanada
12:27 Sun Mar 10
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He has not shown us he is great (like was being said after the couple game before this) or rubbish (like people are saying here)
You can't teach pace, which he has, so that is a great place from whence to work.
He needs better decision making and skills when he gets into their final third. Something required for a Pellegrini fullback.
Hoilett had a great game yesterday. (There are obvious reasons I watch him closely. To preempt all the unoriginal comments: he is one of the best player on my national team - pathetic I know - but I did not choose West Ham or Canada to support) However, the ball was coming back to him repeated because we did nothing with it. Fredericks was caught between try to be up getting us a goal and dealing with a player having a good outing (they are not that common for him.)
Time will tell again.
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Eerie Descent
12:25 Sun Mar 10
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It's ridiculous, one minute he's going to be our right back for the next 5 year, the next game he doesn't know what a football is.
For me, if budget allows it, an upgrade would be nice, but I think we've got bigger problems in the team than him. We need a left back as a priority, a centre midfielder, and 2 strikers. Hopefully there's money left after that to upgrade on Fredericks, but I doubt it.
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eusebiovic
12:21 Sun Mar 10
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Eerie Descent 12:16 Sun Mar 10
You have a point
I suspect it was the 4-1-4-1 formation and lightweight starting line-up which mugged off the fullbacks yesterday.
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AnotherDay_SameShit
12:19 Sun Mar 10
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For a full back to have the pace he does in the modern game is a real asset, although you still have to be able to play football of course. Jury still out for me, needs a real run at it now.
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Eerie Descent
12:16 Sun Mar 10
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Fucking hell
He has been excellent in a few games leading up to yesterday, we already forgetting about that? He didn't have a great day yesterday, but the whole team was shit.
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Crassus
11:59 Sun Mar 10
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Said it from day one, he is a bloody wing back, never a full back and a qusetionable at that
Quick, direct and game but positionally weak and a defensive liability
He will never change
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shim
11:36 Sun Mar 10
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Sven, yes, well spotted you rascal.
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1964
11:34 Sun Mar 10
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Can't just blame Fredricks the whole lot of them were shit. (maybe Fab excepted)
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eusebiovic
11:32 Sun Mar 10
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I'm looking forward to seeing a bit more of Ben Johnson who looks like a conventional right-back.
Fredericks made his name as a wing-back in a Fulham team that was very open even for Championship level.
However, that formation yesterday and the over-reliance of lightweight but creative players didn't help him or anybody else really.
Antonio and the sulky one should have started yesterday
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Far Cough
9:58 Sun Mar 10
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Played Cardiff player onside for the 2nd goal
Wake up you cunt
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